tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post3001601155219290890..comments2023-11-30T13:55:19.790+05:30Comments on AIPWA (एपवा): Why the Govt’s Ordinance is an Eyewash and a Mockery of the Justice Verma RecommendationsAIPWAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09309839056754017982noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-58727160363184621612013-02-06T12:29:16.776+05:302013-02-06T12:29:16.776+05:30I am willing to support this, provided men can get...I am willing to support this, provided men can get divorce based on "no sex" accusation. Women needs to prove she is ready for sex "willingly", otherwise she has to agree for divorce.<br />If women can term any sex as rape and guy has to prove the consent, then I think keeping equality in mind, this is a fair demand. After all women are equal in every respect to men. <br />PS: Why all of women activists are one or more of following:<br />i) Divorcee (Some multiple times)<br />ii) Spinster <br />iii) Lawyers Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14034998035396242564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-64768024321475630732013-02-05T23:44:22.133+05:302013-02-05T23:44:22.133+05:30What new will you achieve with new laws except giv...What new will you achieve with new laws except giving new weapons of extortion in hand of women. Yesterday I saw you on news channel. You have no facts. Just you have one awnser that women are beaten. Why such hate against men? Think .......do something constructive for women welfare. And why shouldn't be there any law for fake rape and I have thought of a very good name for it-NIRLAZZA..govindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03977748905018370705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-10960766447541815442013-02-05T23:40:04.558+05:302013-02-05T23:40:04.558+05:30What new will you achieve with new laws except giv...What new will you achieve with new laws except giving new weapons of extortion in hand of women. Yesterday I saw you on news channel. You have no facts. Just you have one awnser that women are beaten. Why such hate against men? Think .......do something constructive for women welfare. And why shouldn't be there any law for fake rape and I have thought of a very good name for it-NIRLAZZA..govindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03977748905018370705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-71693913380935521462013-02-05T16:38:19.563+05:302013-02-05T16:38:19.563+05:30Not sure why you have deleted my questions posted ...Not sure why you have deleted my questions posted earlier here. Does that mean you do not have any answer for them or you just want to create blind faith in your movement and expect people to be mute spectators when their own country is looted. If you have answer, pls answer the following questions before you start your hooliganism again -<br /><br />Q1 - How can one prove that the woman has consented for sex? Do you mean men should sign a contract everytime they want sex? Please explain.<br /> <br />Q2 - You said a woman can't be accused of rape. Then what about perpatrators like the maid in Aundh, Pune who was caught red handed by his mother while she was sexually exploiting a 4 yr old kid? There are many women perpetrators hiding under gender biased laws. Why are you trying to save those culprits?<br /> <br />Q3 - Why do you want to promote sex in teenagers? I do not know what Bajrang Dal is doing and saying they are doing it right, but why do you want to promote teenage sex? What will you say if the same sex is later termed as 'rape'? Will you save those boys?<br /> <br />Q4 - If marital rape is applicable to men, same should be applicable to wife as well. There are equal number of women who batters their husbands physically and mentally. What about punishing those wives?<br /> <br />Q5 - Why you want to bring in 'principle of command responsibility' here. Are you promoting anti national movement undercover your feminist movement? This has far reaching implication with our enemies utilising this opportunity heavily. Are you connected with them?<br /> <br />Q6 - How can you equate one sided sexual violence cases with caste and communal violence as the nature and spread of such violences can't be matched?<br /> <br />Q7 - Why you are trying to fool everyone by saying army officers or powerful rapists are not prosecuted? They have a separate process and their punishment may be severe compared to ours. There are many cases where such powerful people too were convicted.<br /> <br />Q8 - So by punishing policeman what you tried to acheive. Even one year term is too harsh. There are many cases (recent Rajasthan one) where a harassment case was tried to be filed under rape. People like you severely protested to file a rape case whereas there was no rape. <br />Why do you want to do that?Parthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248176232235957603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-29046571368561629882013-02-05T12:58:08.494+05:302013-02-05T12:58:08.494+05:30Really?I'm gonna be a proud male chauvinist fr...Really?I'm gonna be a proud male chauvinist from now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06186287875909310091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-82844897038252403722013-02-05T07:59:54.082+05:302013-02-05T07:59:54.082+05:30Q1 - How can one prove that the woman has consente...Q1 - How can one prove that the woman has consented for sex? Do you mean men should sign a contract everytime they want sex? Please explain.<br /><br />Q2 - You said a woman can't be accused of rape. Then what about perpatrators like the maid in Aundh, Pune who was caught red handed by his mother while she was sexually exploiting a 4 yr old kid? There are many women perpetrators hiding under gender biased laws. Why are you trying to save those culprits?<br /><br />Q3 - Why do you want to promote sex in teenagers? I do not know what Bajrang Dal is doing and saying they are doing it right, but why do you want to promote teenage sex? What will you say if the same sex is later termed as 'rape'? Will you save those boys?<br /><br />Q4 - If marital rape is applicable to men, same should be applicable to wife as well. There are equal number of women who batters their husbands physically and mentally. What about punishing those wives?<br /><br />Q5 - Why you want to bring in 'principle of command responsibility' here. Are you promoting anti national movement undercover your feminist movement? This has far reaching implication with our enemies utilising this opportunity heavily. Are you connected with them?<br /><br />Q6 - How can you equate one sided sexual violence cases with caste and communal violence as the nature and spread of such violences can't be matched?<br /><br />Q7 - Why you are trying to fool everyone by saying army officers or powerful rapists are not prosecuted? They have a separate process and their punishment may be severe compared to ours. There are many cases where such powerful people too were convicted.<br /><br />Q8 - So by punishing policeman what you tried to acheive. Even one year term is too harsh. There are many cases (recent Rajasthan one) where a harassment case was tried to be filed under rape. People like you severely protested to file a rape case whereas there was no rape. Why do you want to do that?Parthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248176232235957603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-55302803843561303442013-02-05T03:09:21.075+05:302013-02-05T03:09:21.075+05:30To some extent point-wise my comments on above:
1....To some extent point-wise my comments on above:<br />1. sexual assault is a gender-neutral crime, govt. ordinance is correct to that extent<br />2. there was deafening noise to demand reduction in juvenile age - then naturally adolescent sex will get criminalised. On a side note - even today consensual sex gets criminalised when a woman chooses to do so.<br />3. on one hand you are concerned about false case in #2 above, but not here.. double standards!! On misuse of 498a even SC had to term it as "legal terrorsim". Marital rape is another step in that direction if gets defined in law<br />4. Why have command responsibility only for rape and only for armed forces? Let's apply to all authorities n institutions. Starting with your organization, if anyone under the umbrella of AIPWA commits a crime, the secretary/president etc, should be jailed and tried as main accused!! Sounds good. I was infact completely shocked to see this reco coming from an ex-CJI, raises questions on ...<br />5. society is already divided into castes/religion why create more special laws when the proposed steps itself can adequately punish a criminal<br />6. AFSPA is actually a double speak from govt. By excluding this, govt. on hand tells that misuse of rape laws are rampant, while on other hand neither Verma panel nor govt. wants to take strong steps to kill false cases <br />False cases are one of the main reasons why genuine victims get delayed justice, but why your org never fight to get that?? http://www.dailypioneer.com/home/online-channel/360-todays-newspaper/125062-fast-track-relief-from-false-rape-allegations.html<br />7. your demand on death penalty is not clear. govt. already has included whole life term in ordinance, what more do you want? Next life?? I actually did not find mention of death penalty in the ordinance text as published by some media house - either they or I missed it.<br />8. this one is crass mischief by govt, as the ordinance says policemen will be punished for not recording only those FIRs which relate to offences under sexual assault. Why? If a crime has prima facie happened, all such FIRs should be registered and punishment to police if not record any such FIRs. BTW, who will punish policemen, i.e. who will register FIR against police for not registering FIR??<br />9. Tests are an area which should be made strong such that both real and false cases caught properly - not like the Bhatinda case!!<br />time4MANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00883699046243720324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-52997136815806486012013-02-05T02:56:00.261+05:302013-02-05T02:56:00.261+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05487108957593682311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-56950703773165148762013-02-05T02:44:08.712+05:302013-02-05T02:44:08.712+05:30Bait is to Entrap Someone with the glitter of Temp...Bait is to Entrap Someone with the glitter of Temptation, <br /><br />Verma has provided enough and more Glittering Baits to Women to make False Allegations Against Men.There is No Such Beautiful Life Ever-after after Making a False Accusation or Implication. <br /><br />What we do not recognise is that when someone is falsely implicated accused or sentenced, It invokes the carnal instinct of revenge which is enacted out usually according to statistics 3 times more gruesomely against the Oppressor by themselves, family, relatives, friends against the false accuser Immediately or in Future. There are cases where Revenge is Exacted after Many Years. <br /><br />Even more serious is when people know that when something terribly Unfair is meeted out to them they CURSE in the Distressed Emotions of Falsely being implicated and Believe me with thousands of Examples Curses Work just like Prayers do, You will find the Person who Falsely Implicated Someone to be Rotting either by Diseases, Accidents, Terrible Fights etc which is 10 times more Grave than the Punishment meeted out by the False Accuser against the Victim.<br /><br />Now Verma has provided the Glittering Bait of Veiling False Accusations to Thousands of Women who would Bite it to their Own Turmoil for Years to come. <br />We Women should be at the Forefront AGAINST the Recommendations made by Verma and his Feminist Team because it will only serve to Increase Violence Against Us Women Exponentially. The Power of Change is in our Hands. Effective Gender Neutral Laws are the Only Answer.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05487108957593682311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4768201492034513146.post-40403485473247744142013-02-05T01:20:10.197+05:302013-02-05T01:20:10.197+05:30Ek aur TUKDA KARO Hindustan ka for "Women&quo...Ek aur TUKDA KARO Hindustan ka for "Women" only (Not for mother & Sister..... because they are not women as per IPC).......... And....All men in India are criminal as per Indian Constitution ... believe it or not ... this is hard TRUTH .... Men should fight for his own right .... not for women .... they have enough power to save herself ( If they Want to be safe ).... Lekin abki baar musalmano ki tarah ye aazadi mat dena ki jo yahan rahna chahe ......Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15062454318473590137noreply@blogger.com